This is a pic I made ,thinking that this would be the grand fights of two powerful heavy heavy weights. I would love to see it but, ...who will win.The artwork was drawn in pen and brought in photoshop.
Well, getting right down to it, and not meaning to sound cynical, the simple truth is, for the most part, the Hulk is definitely seen--almost always--as the good guy, even when he's out destroying fill-in-the-blank. He's even been known to side with the same military that hunts him, if it looks like innocents are in danger. On the other hand, Doomsday is best known for the creature, the monster that killed Superman. He might've changed at some point, in the comics, somewhere (I can't remember just where, as I didn't read them all), but overall, he's (it's?) gonna be seen as the Bad Guy. And Bad Guys never really win, when it comes down to it. That being said:
1.) Juggernaut has fought the Hulk, even the Green Scar version, to a standstill. His power is unchanging, as long as he has the full power of the Crimson bands of Cyttorak.
2.) In the Marvel vs. DC crossover (non-canon, canon, it really doesn't matter a whole lot), Supes beat both Hulk AND Juggernaut, and finally,
3.) Doomsday beat and killed Superman, once. And, since then, his power level has presumably grown.
('Course, you can't really deny that the Hulk is better looking than Doomsday; that, in itself, is probably a factor...)
LOL Here's another fight we gamed out in the RPG I was in. It went on forever...and in the end, was a draw. The combatants (thankfully on an uninhabited planet) had destroyed the world and both drifted away from each other into space... Unsatisfying, I know, but neither could land the final blow.
Doomsday for sure. A lot of the previous comments mention why, like base level power and ability to adapt constantly are the main reasons. Beside that he is just more terrifying lol. Great job by the way
Fail....if you read DC vs. Marvel, you'll see Superman say that fighting the Hulk was like fighting Doomsday. So obviously the Hulk was doing damage. Additionally, we are talking about the only creature in the known universes to lift Thor's hamme without Odin's blessing...
Might wanna rethink the unable to do anything to Doomsday bit.
Have you ever heard the word canon before? Marvel vs DC holds no bearing over either universe seeing as both have claimed that it's non canon. Doomsday's main power is reactive adaptivity, which allows him to boost his powers mid-battle and prevents him.from being beaten through the same method twice. If you read the Death of Superman, you'd know that Superman used pure brute force to beat Doomsday. Last time I checked, Hulk was pure brute force, ergo, Hulk can't do shit to Doomsday
At one time it wasn't canon, but if you read what happened after JLA/Avengers, all of the previous crossovers become canon retroactively, as per both comp0anies. JLA/Avengers, in fact is part of the catalyst for the Scarlet Witch's breakdown that led into House of M. It's also why there was a Cosmic Egg in the DCU, containing Krona, long after JLA/Avengers ended.
I have read Death of Superman, many times. I don't remember, in the original story, that this was ever said...that was written retroactively by other writers who thought Doomsday was too great a monster to waste on being dead. If you can find it in the original storyline, please let me know where, and I'll happily concede that point. I've been reading the Wikipedia page on Doomsday and it doesn't clarify the question. Additionally,
The Hulk is far more than just pure brute force. If that were all he was, he wouldn't have been able to beat villains like the Leader, who was all intellect. Remember that somewhere in that body lurks one of the finest minds in the Marvel Universe. Plus, these days especially, he isn't the mindless rampaging Hulk. There's a fair amount of intelligence there. (Of course, if the Hulk reverted to Banner, this is over in about a nanosecond. Banner jelly, anyone? )
Besides, my argument isn't that the Hulk would take Doomsday down. My argument is that it would end up in a stalemate. Having said that, I would like you to consider two facts.
One: Doomsday is part Kryptonian. That means he derives his powers and healing from a yellow sun, like any other Kryptonian. Separate him from that, and he weakens. This is why it took so long for him to regenerate when he first arrived on Earth; he was underground and had no solar energy feeding him. Had he been entombed inside an asteroid when his body was launched from Earth, he might never have returned. This information is on the Wikipedia site, btw.
Two: The Hulk doesn't tire either. In fact, the general knowledge is:the madder the Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. I think Doomsday would be quite the irritant!
Ultimately, in a straight-on slugfest, I maintain that it would be a stalemate. I'd pity whatever planet the fight happened on; I don't think there would be much left. In fact, when my gaming group played this scenario out, that's exactly how it ended: the planet broke apart and the two combatants drifted away from each other in space. I don't care how strong you are, you have to have something to fight on in order to fight.
Actually, both Marvel and DC have stated that none of their crossovers are canon, so your attempts to say JLA/Avengers makes the crossover canon us moot. If neither company admits the series is canon, then it's not canon, simple as that.
The reason it doesn't say that in the original story is because they didn't know what to do with Doomsday outside of having him kill Superman. He didn't have a back story until after the battle when they decided he was too popular and too iconic to just let go to waste, so Hunter/Prey came forth and gave Doomsday his back story. Subsequent stories add on to his reactive adaptivity; it's why he was able to return from being reduced to a skeleton by Imperiex, it's why he was able to tank the Omega Beams, it's why he was able to beat and kill Radiant. He's shown this power multiple times over in canon, as well as being able to adapt mid battle. He can easily counter the Hulk because his powers make him a walking Deus Ex Machina. If you're going to base all your opinions on things gathered from Wikipedia, then you're failing immensely. Wikipedia only has the summaries, not the full feats.
Actually (and I just spent quite a bit of time researching this) both DC and Marvel said it WAS canon; DC vs. Marvel is not. However, as with everything else, New 52 may have screwed that up. Once again, Krona was locked in a Cosmic Egg by Metron and the Grandmaster. That Cosmic Egg showed up quite a few times in the DCU afterwards. As to the effect on Marvel, as I said, the exposure to the wilder magic of the DCU (and this is even mentioned in the story) is a large part of what unbalanced Wanda Maximoff aka the Scarlet Witch, and ultimately led to the House of M event. So yes, it is canon.
One way or another, I say that I think it will end in a stalemate. Since the two companies don't speak anymore, we'll likely never find out, so I think I'll bow out of the discussion here and wish you a good day.
Actually, (and I have been going over this for years with people) neither company confirmed that it was canon to their universe/multiverse. Trust me, i have had this argument every single time someone tries bringing up the Thor vs Superman fight from that series or the IG on Apokalips, or the Speed Force in Marvel. None of those events were deemed canon by either company because they knew how much of a shitstorm it would create if they did claim canon to that event. DC did explain the Cosmic Egg in Trinity when Despero stole it by making it solely Metron's doing. Besides, if the seires was canon, Marvel would technically no longer exist and the current comics would be fan-fictions published under Marvel's name because the events of what happened involving the destruction of Galactus and the death of the Grandmaster. Therefore, JLA/Avengers is not canon, and neither company claimed it was.
LOL I've already taken my leave of this discussion for the most part, but I'm curious as to where your information regarding stats comes from? And these days, as of the last time I was reading any Hulk issues anyway, the Hulk is separate from Banner, so there's no shutting that down...
tough to say but im going for hulk. unlike ol' supes he wouldnt weaken and get tired as the fight went on, he would get stronger. but when DD comes back to life hulk would have to find a better strategy than just "SMASH!"
hulk would win for several reasons. one, because he gets stronger as he gets madder, and that dude would piss him off royally. second, he wouldnt be affected by the cryptonite in his bones like superman was. hes crush him.
Um...just Superman? Remember that Supes ended up defeating Hulk in DC vs. Marvel. Granted, that's because there was no way DC's flagship hero was going to lose, but still, it's canon. I still say stalemate...
When I saw the Incredible Hulk movie, I was confused, becuase I knew that Doomsday was from DC and killed superman that one time, but here he was in Marvel. Then I realized that it was abomination, only the designers thought it would look better if hulk wasn't fighting a freaky fish guy.
I would love to see this fight. I dunno who would win, but I bet the fight would go on for days! Probably end similar to the first match between Supes and Doomsday where they both just end up killin each other.